Introducing…The Pretty Smart Podcast TRAILER

Welcome to Pretty Smart, the podcast where three design industry insiders accidentally started a movement…mostly because no one else was doing it.

We’re Jane Dagmi, Jessica Duce, and Ericka Saurit — friends, founders, and people who probably should’ve asked more questions before launching a Summit, a collective, and now… a podcast.

For the first season we’re talking about vacation rental design—and how we built a whole movement (and an award-winning annual summit around it!).

We created this show for every designer, host, brand, or creative entrepreneur who’s ever thought: am I the only one who feels like everyone else has their life together?

Spoiler: yes… and also absolutely not.

Here's what you can expect: real conversations about the courage it takes to build something in an industry that can feel enormous, glamorous, and occasionally a little ridiculous.

We’ll talk about the messy middle.

The bold leaps.

The panic.

The accidental wins.

The strategic wins.

The friendship that held it all together…and why doing something before you know how to do it might just be the secret.

We’re so glad you’re here.